Anecdotes de Juha

Adel, ici ما est je pense un pronom relatif (ce qui, ce que, celui qui...)

Pour la traduction je dirais comme toi mise à part cette partie contenant le pronom relatif  : "Et ne penses pas trop à ce qui te cause/donne des soucis".

Il s'agit du verbe اِعْتَنَى - يَعْتَنِي sa racine ع ن ي, le nûn et le yâ- sont donc des radicales (ce n'est donc pas le pronom).

Do you mean in يهمك  ? 

The verb هَمِّ - يَهُمُّ means to start to do something : ( يَهُمُّ بالكتابه  he start writing , يَهُمُّ بالخروج he start to get out )
But here the verb أهَمَّ - يُهِمُّ : to concern or worry about something.

Hadeel a écrit:

Ibn Nacer a écrit:I think is تُفَكِّر.

For you the sentence (لا تُفكِّرْ طَوٍيلاً فِي ما يهِمك) is a prohibition ? I say that because you put the verb madjûm (with sukûn).


I think the sentence وَلا تُفكِّرْ طَوٍيلاً فِي ما يهِمك  is not independent, it is as if we had خُلاصَةُ الطِّبِ أَنْ لا تُفكِّرْ طَوٍيلاً فِي ما يهِمك, is not it?

In this case, I don't know if this sentense is negation or prohibition but if it is a simple negation then the verb تُفكِّرْ must be marfû3 (تُفَكِّرُ), right ?

About لا تفكر I have two cases :
- I suppose the لا is لا الناهيه so the verb will be مجزوم بالسكون .
- The other case there is واو العطف before لا تفكر so the verb here معطوف on the preceded verbs which they are منصوب.
( أن تدفئ , و تبردَ, و تعتنيَ )
And I think لا  here could be لا النافيه.

Hadeel a écrit:To get little deeper in this sentence (أَنْ لا تُفكِّر طَوٍيلاً فِي ما يهِمك ) alone, we can write it like this ( ألاّ تفكرَ طويلا ) and here the verb is منصوب because of the أن. The لا here could be لا النافيه or لا زائده.
like these examples :
( قالَ ما مَنَعَكَ أَلاَّ تَسْجُدَ )
(  قالَ رَبِّ اجْعَلْ لِي آيَةً قالَ آيَتُكَ أَلاَّ تُكَلِّمَ )

Hadeel a écrit:

Ibna Nacer a écrit:
In red, I think it is the verb: هَمَّ - يَهُمُّ so I think it's فِي مَا يَهُمُّكَ, what do you think ?

The verb هَمِّ - يَهُمُّ means to start to do something : ( يَهُمُّ بالكتابه  he start writing , يَهُمُّ بالخروج he start to get out )
But here the verb أهَمَّ - يُهِمُّ : to concern or worry about something.
In this text the meaning don't think too much about your worries or things you concern about.

Adel Medine a écrit:

Il s'agit du verbe اِعْتَنَى - يَعْتَنِي sa racine ع ن ي, le nûn et le yâ- sont donc des radicales (ce n'est donc pas le pronom).

Merci. We could think that it's verb form VIII but it's a root 4.

Termination to mark the possession is the same as using the conjugation for some pronouns for verbs المعتل اللام. Can we say that the same rules apply for a root 4 or 5?

So for the add mark possession and "put up" with my first translation "tu prends soin de moi" we write تعتنيني  ?

Adel Medine a écrit:

Do you mean in يهمك  ? 

The verb هَمِّ - يَهُمُّ means to start to do something : ( يَهُمُّ بالكتابه  he start writing , يَهُمُّ بالخروج he start to get out )
But here the verb أهَمَّ - يُهِمُّ : to concern or worry about something.

Thank you for your explanations. 

I talk about the vowel of the first letter as suffix like for يُهِمُّ 

I understand that there are at least these two doors and meaning for this verb. I thought the door was only concern verbs for the vowel of the second radical. And the vowel of the suffix was given by the voice (active or passive/ معلوم ومجهول) 

So, I can suppose for sample that يُهِمُّ is a verb door that used in passive voice only ? And we can't write يَهِمُّ. I Imagine with وَتُبْردَ  or تُفْكِّرْ.

EDIT : like Ibn Nacer I heard يَهمُّكَ 

Ibn Nacer a écrit:
Par exemple ici : الفعل المعلوم والفعل المجهول on peut lire la règle suivante :

أما الماضي فيكسر ما قبل آخره ويضم كل متحرك قبله

Ainsi pour passer à la voie passive on met une kasrah sur l'avant dernière lettre* et une dammah sur toutes les lettres ayant une voyelle qui précède l'avant dernière lettre*.

Par conséquent quand on a affaire à un verbe de forme I on peut effectivement dire que sa première radicale prend une fathah à la voie active et une dammah à la voie passive.

Exemples : أَخَذَ --> أُخِذَ، قَرَأَ --> قُرِئَ، جَرَحَ -->جُرِحَ.

* Il est dit "l'avant dernière lettre" mais je trouve cela ambiguë je pense qu'il faut comprendre "l'avant dernière radicale" ce qui n'est pas pareil.

Wa Allâhu a'lam.