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The English and its Semitic origin

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Message par منصور Dim 21 Jan - 21:38

Tall



According to etymonline : "having a relatively great stature, high in proportion to breadth," 1520s, originally of persons; by 1540s of things, probably from otherwise obsolete Middle English tal "handsome, good-looking;" also "valiant," from Old English getæl "prompt, active," from Germanic *(ge)-tala- (source also of Old High German gi-zal "quick," Gothic un-tals "indocile???").
The sense of "being of more than average height (and slim in proportion to height)" probably evolved out of earlier meanings "brave, valiant, seemly, proper" (c. 1400), "attractive, handsome" (late 14c.), also "large, big" (mid-14c.), as sometimes in Modern English, colloquially.


We see here, there is no PIE origin. For sure, again, these linguists couldn't recognize the difference between the 2 semitic T : ت, in hebrew ת, and the emphatic one ط, in hebrew ט.

Both in hebrew and arabic, the root طل or טל share the meaning of something overcoming on something. In arabic, it took also the meaning of Tall, Imposing, domination, impressive, long, about stature, see for more details here.

طَلٌّ : goodly, good, beautiful, and pleasing.

طَلَلٌ : The جِلَال [or deck] of a ship or boat, the covering thereof, which is like the roof of a house or chamber.

طَلَالَةٌ : A good, goodly, state, condition, and a beautiful aspect, appearance, mien, guise.

فَرَسٌ حَسَنُ الطَّلَالَةِ :[A horse goodly, or beautiful,] in what is high, elevated, of his frame, make.

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Message par منصور Lun 5 Fév - 22:06

Rich and Reach


According to Etymonline : Rich Old English rice "strong, powerful; great, mighty; of high rank" (senses now obsolete), in later Old English "wealthy;" from Proto-Germanic *rikijaz (source also of Old Norse rikr, Swedish rik, Danish rig, Old Frisian rike "wealthy, mighty," Dutch rijk, Old High German rihhi "ruler, powerful, rich," German reich "rich," Gothic reiks "ruler, powerful, rich"), borrowed from a Celtic source akin to Gaulish *rix, Old Irish ri (genitive rig) "king," from Proto-Celtic *rix, from PIE root *reg- "move in a straight line," with derivatives meaning "to direct in a straight line," thus "to lead, rule" (compare rex). Or simply for the french Riche.

The most serious is this: to lead, rule, the head of a social and political group.

And about Reach, le Etymonline : Middle English rēchen, from Old English ræcan, reccan "to reach out, stretch or extend outward, hold forth, extend in continuity or scope," also "to succeed in touching, succeed in striking;" also "to address, speak to," also "to offer, present, give, grant."

This is proposed to be from Proto-West Germanic *raikejanan "stretch out the hand" (source also of Old Frisian reka "to give, pay," Middle Dutch reken, reiken, Old High German reihhen, reichen "give, reach out, get," Dutch reiken,  German reichen "to reach, to pass, to hand, to give; to be sufficient"), from Proto-Germanic *raikijanau, which is probably from PIE root *reig- "to stretch, stretch out, be stretched; be stiff."

It's about to reach the upper part of something.



The semitic meaning give more information :

רֹאשׁ (rosh) : head.

رأَس (ras) : head. a substantive, about the upper part of the body. The root carries the meaning of an elevated place. See also رس.

Here the beginning of the Torah :


Genesis 1.1
בְּרֵאשִׁית בָּרָא אֱלֹהִים אֵת הַשָּׁמַיִם וְאֵת הָאָרֶץ
In the beginning, Elohim created the Skies and the earth.


Here the exegesis, Reshit is the summit, the Top, so the end of the world will be in the very bottom.
It is not about begining, the translations beeing always corruptions.


Dernière édition par منصور le Jeu 4 Avr - 1:45, édité 1 fois

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Message par منصور Sam 10 Fév - 17:19

Wed


According to Etymonline : "to pledge oneself, covenant to do something, vow; betroth, marry," also "unite (two other people) in a marriage, conduct the marriage ceremony," from Proto-Germanic *wadja (source also of Old Norse veðja, Danish vedde "to bet, wager," Old Frisian weddia "to promise," Gothic ga-wadjon "to betroth"), from PIE root *wadh- (1) "to pledge, to redeem a pledge".

The semitic :

وُدٌّ : to love.

This also the etymology of the name David דָוִד دَاوُود Daawwd. And also one of the oldest divinity reported in the Qur'an :


[71.23]

وَقَالُوا لَا تَذَرُنَّ آلِهَتَكُمْ وَلَا تَذَرُنَّ وَدًّا وَلَا سُوَاعًا وَلَا يَغُوثَ وَيَعُوقَ وَنَسْرًا
And said, 'Never leave your gods and never leave Wadd or Suwa' or Yaghuth and Ya'uq and Nasr.



The hypothesis of PIE root wadh "to pledge, to redeem a pledge" could be related to a anciant God too and people relation with it.

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